i need some help on energy policy. let's help to fill in the gaps and make it a national effort if you will. i think there's huge untapped potential in that area that could speak to bipartisanship. >> i think the biggest policy achievement might have been welfare reform. and that was done by clinton who was congressionally accepted. on the republican side a couple of democratic governors. so i think you could imagine, certainly if you have serious health care reform, the republican version of health care reform includes medicaid back to the states. you need to have a serious and truthfully than obamacare will depend on this day. you need to have a serious conversation with governors to understand those issues. >> to that end, they would at least instinctively understand how to harness them and how to energize them going forward. >> okay, other questions. right there in the aisle as the microphone coming out. >> governor huntsman, i am with wing tank. you stated the president has an opportunity to set a framework, so co